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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods
Posted by: Ron Lewis
Date/Time: 21/09/20 13:15:00

1. I am not saying Goldsmith and Horn Lane are interchangeable, I never said that. Horn Lane will always have vastly more traffic than Goldsmith Road. But should the level of traffic on Horn Lane be built to unreasonable levels just so the residents of Poets Corner can have car-free roads?
2. Does the fact that Horn Lane has the title A4000 mean that the people who live there have no protection to traffic and pollution?
3. Why block Acacia and St Dunstan's but not block Lynton Road, which is much more of a cut-through than Acacia, or Noel Road? Over that side of Horn Lane, the lack of blocked roads means the cars are spread out. On the "Poets Corner side" by blocking routes previously, a problem was created on Acacia Road.
4. I don't believe for one second that overall traffic will be reduced by 15 per cent. How much do you know about LTNs in Walthamstow? I am talking about specific points faced in Acton and you are using as "proof" an area across the other side of London that none of us knows well, merely because it is a convenient talking point given by the council. My brief look at a map of the Walthamstow scheme showed that it seemed to be a rectangular area, so there was little distance saved by going through it. As the area covered by this LTN is basically triangular and cars are now forced the long way around, along two edges of the triangle rather than one, it adds to congestion.
5. Yes it would be great if more people cycled, but the council are tackling a small local problem by adding to a bigger problem and washing their hands of it.
6. Would anyone ever cycle up Acacia Road? It is one of the steepest roads in Acton. Lots more people cycle down Horn Lane than through the LTN. Yet there is no protection from traffic there. And there is no real way of cycling through the LTN to bypass the route of going down Horn Lane, unless you are going from Acton Main Line east. But that would not have been a dangerous route in the first place.
6. One thing that will change is that buses and lorries (vehicles which were already blocked from your gated community) will take longer to get through the Horn Lane-Churchfield Road/High Street route, thus pumping out more pollution. For years, councils across the country have tried to keep traffic out of their town centres, Ealing Council is actively pushing congestion into our town centre, even trapping people trying to avoid it.
7. Yes, there will always be traffic in Horn Lane. This has added to it. Also now, whenever there is any problem (accident, roadworks, broken down bus) there is no escape route for traffic stuck in it, so there will be gridlock. If Crossrail ever opens, and when overall traffic levels return to normal, this will get even worse.
8. That the council would implement this without even attempting to address the problems on the surrounding roads is a disgrace. But this is the latest in a string of short-sighted interventions by Ealing Council's urban planners that have made traffic worse in Horn Lane. There was the roundabout outside Morrison's and the decision to ban the left turn outside the Red Lion and Pineapple. Going back further there was the decision to let TFL sell off the Bus Garage/Tram Depot for housing and use the bottom half of Horn Lane as a bus station. Turning Grafton Road one-way merely forced more traffic onto Acacia.
They haven't even had the brains to turn the junctions of Horn Lane/Churchfield Road and Horn Lane/Steyne Road into box junctions to stop them being constantly blocked.
This has been done with a big two-finger salute to the residents of Horn Lane and Churchfield Road. The council's only hope seems to be that traffic becomes so bad that some of the through traffic will go another way. But if that happens that doesn't really help us.
My fear is that they] council use lower current levels of traffic, caused by many people working from home, to claim some sort of proof that this has worked to reduce traffic, by comparing it to pre-pandemic traffic. I wouldn't put that past them.


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Low Traffic Neighbourhoods02/08/20 21:01:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 11:23:00 Peter Savick
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 13:38:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 14:21:00 Peter Evans
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 14:57:00 Tony Mansell
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 15:13:00 Peter Savick
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 17:52:00 Chris Hurley
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 17:51:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 18:31:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/08/20 18:52:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods06/08/20 09:29:00 Tony Mansell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods06/08/20 16:58:00 Ron Lewis
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 12:46:00 Ossian Olsén
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 17:56:00 Ron Lewis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods07/08/20 17:10:00 Libby Kemp
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods04/08/20 08:41:00 Ron Lewis
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods04/08/20 10:05:00 Maire Lowe
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods04/08/20 15:11:00 Sara Nathan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods07/08/20 09:56:00 Andy Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods07/08/20 22:34:00 Libby Kemp
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods08/08/20 11:23:00 Rosco White
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods08/08/20 13:50:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods08/08/20 18:39:00 Libby Kemp
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/08/20 16:00:00 Andy Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/08/20 22:41:00 Sara Nathan
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/08/20 18:54:00 Andy Jones
                                    Reply12/08/20 16:05:00 Kevin Howard
                                       Re:Reply01/09/20 22:36:00 Sara Nathan
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/09/20 15:26:00 Ossian Olsén
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/09/20 15:58:00 Ossian Olsén
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods19/08/20 10:17:00 Nick Brient
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/09/20 00:55:00 Ron Lewis
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 19:55:00 Peter Yale
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/08/20 16:44:00 Tony Bailey
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods18/08/20 18:46:00 Serena Macbeth
      Reply18/08/20 21:10:00 Tania Bapuji
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods19/08/20 10:00:00 Libby Kemp
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods19/08/20 21:18:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods20/08/20 21:40:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods27/08/20 13:27:00 Linda Tubby
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods27/08/20 14:03:00 Rosco White
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/09/20 15:51:00 Ossian Olsén
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods27/08/20 16:50:00 Jean F Fernandez
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/09/20 15:37:00 Ossian Olsén
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods30/11/20 12:01:00 Dr John Stolworthy D.Sc
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods01/09/20 22:21:00 Helen Szoke
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/09/20 16:31:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods01/09/20 22:28:00 Helen Szoke
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods01/09/20 22:33:00 Helen Szoke
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/09/20 09:10:00 Kim Rugg
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/09/20 14:07:00 Susan Hauser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/09/20 08:37:00 Angela White
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/09/20 16:12:00 Sara Nathan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 07:52:00 Ossian Olsén
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 07:36:00 Ossian Olsén
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 13:59:00 Rosco White
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 16:47:00 Sara Nathan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/09/20 21:19:00 Rosco White
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods14/09/20 20:22:00 Sara Nathan
                              Reply15/09/20 17:54:00 Tania Bapuji
                                 Re:Reply16/09/20 16:18:00 Ossian Olsén
                                    Re:Re:Reply17/09/20 19:02:00 Ron Lewis
                                 shopping in Churchfield road17/09/20 13:57:00 Sara Nathan
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods16/09/20 15:45:00 Ossian Olsén
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods16/09/20 20:33:00 Rosco White
                                    PS .................................................:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods16/09/20 20:37:00 Rosco White
                                       Re:PS .................................................:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods20/09/20 23:09:00 Ossian Olsén
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 20:17:00 Ossian Olsén
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods16/09/20 21:02:00 Tom Maher
                                    Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods16/09/20 22:27:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods17/09/20 10:32:00 Kim Rugg
                                          Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods17/09/20 13:53:00 Sara Nathan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 00:37:00 Ossian Olsén
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 16:20:00 Ossian Olsén
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 15:25:00 Angela White
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 16:35:00 Ossian Olsén
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods17/09/20 18:49:00 Ron Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods17/09/20 20:01:00 Ron Lewis
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods17/09/20 23:41:00 Rosco White
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 00:54:00 Ossian Olsén
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 00:12:00 Ossian Olsén
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 13:15:00 Ron Lewis
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods22/09/20 11:38:00 Ossian Olsén
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 13:31:00 Claire Rutland
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/09/20 14:59:00 Rosco White
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods22/09/20 13:16:00 Ossian Olsén
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods22/09/20 19:02:00 Susan Hauser
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods24/09/20 16:19:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods24/09/20 20:23:00 Georgina Burns
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods24/09/20 21:31:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods24/09/20 21:51:00 Georgina Burns
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods25/09/20 10:02:00 Susan Hauser
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods25/09/20 11:02:00 Ron Lewis
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods24/09/20 21:45:00 Ron Lewis
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods25/09/20 16:04:00 Susan Hauser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods25/09/20 16:09:00 Susan Hauser
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods25/09/20 17:34:00 Ron Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods26/09/20 20:42:00 Wendy Moger
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods28/09/20 12:30:00 Tania Bapuji
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods28/09/20 12:35:00 Tania Bapuji
   Lawful?28/09/20 21:46:00 Vlod Barchuk
      Re:Lawful?05/10/20 13:28:00 Tony Mansell
         Re:Re:Lawful?06/10/20 10:57:00 Ron Lewis
            BBC Radio London08/10/20 08:39:00 Angela White
               Re:BBC Radio London08/10/20 18:56:00 Sara Nathan
                  Re:Re:BBC Radio London09/10/20 19:49:00 Peter Yale
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/10/20 16:30:00 Roger Foreman
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/10/20 18:20:00 Sara Nathan
         Low Traffic Neighbourhoods - petition16/10/20 14:53:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods20/10/20 08:55:00 Kathleen Kelber
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods20/10/20 18:18:00 Peter Yale
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods22/10/20 14:27:00 Kathleen Kelber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods27/10/20 17:41:00 Ron Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods29/10/20 09:26:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods03/11/20 11:31:00 Ron Lewis
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods09/11/20 14:46:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods10/11/20 14:38:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods11/11/20 16:46:00 Kathleen Kelber
         Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/11/20 14:02:00 Tony Mansell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/11/20 18:01:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods12/11/20 18:34:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/11/20 23:17:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods14/11/20 15:18:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/11/20 23:20:00 Ron Lewis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods14/11/20 18:24:00 Sara Nathan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods14/11/20 19:07:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/11/20 14:39:00 Sara Nathan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/11/20 15:09:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods21/11/20 15:11:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods27/11/20 22:21:00 Sara Nathan
   Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods01/12/20 20:24:00 Peter Yale
      Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods04/12/20 16:12:00 Sara Nathan
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               Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER12/12/20 15:51:00 Rosco White
               Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER12/12/20 15:51:00 Rosco White
                  Re:Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER16/12/20 17:14:00 Adam Drinan
                     Re:Re:Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER17/12/20 18:46:00 Sara Nathan
                     Re:Re:Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER17/12/20 18:59:00 Peter Yale
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER17/12/20 21:10:00 Rosco White
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FINES START 7TH DECEMBER19/12/20 11:26:00 Nicolas Ozegovic
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         Camera in Goldsmith Avenue installed today 11th March 202111/03/21 14:43:00 Sara Nathan
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               Re:Re:Camera in Goldsmith Avenue installed today 11th March 202110/05/21 21:28:00 Sara Nathan
                  Something to do....20/05/21 12:44:00 Sara Nathan
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods19/07/21 15:41:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Low Traffic Neighbourhoods13/08/21 12:11:00 Philippa Bond
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