Forum Message

Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration
Posted by: Sanya Sheikh
Date/Time: 06/12/14 12:57:00

Spoke with Chris Patterson of Catalyst at the consultation, plus an architect, and gleaned this:

Density
- Currently approx 290-300, many vulnerable people.
- Just above 100% uplift so about 650 units
- 50% social housing, 50% private
- The main tower will be 100% private housing
- 1 car parking space for every 3 units/3 parking spaces for every 10 units
- I was told the current units were badly insulated and often 1 beds so weren't up to par with current standards. I suggested with the issues around Spare Room Subsidy, 1 beds should be in demand and received no real response I can report back on

Evidence Base
- I asked if they would release their evidence base - stats on how the residents felt re. the housing, demographics of the estate, how many vulnerable residents etc. They said  that they would try and get me something

Transition
- I asked about where the vulnerable people would go, and was told some may stay, some may go elsewhere, based on the central points-based Housing app
- Usually, if the residents are expected to stay in situ, they are all moved into the a building whilst the development takes place around them. If this was the case the people from Phase 1 would be moved to Phase 4, where the buildings are not currently at full capacity. I was told that was possible, but unconfirmable (sorry, not a word, I know!)
- I mentioned that moving vulnerable people away from familiar surroundings and habits could (will) impact their psychological health and recovery. I was told things were complicated by a priority list of housing that the Council runs, and therefore it is in the Council's hands.
- I asked if there will be 'voluntary redundancy', as it were, so people who want to move (apparently lots are unhappy) can be moved first and received no real response I can report back on

Tower Height
- When I suggested the tower clearly has contingency built in and asked what number of stories they where actually planning for, they wouldn't give me an explicit answer, but Chris Patterson also didn't challenge my assumption and said there will come a point when the site won't become viable in terms of return of investment
- I was told the towers alongside the  20 story tower are 14, 13, 12 and 10 stories. My gut feeling is the 20 story one is not just so, for example, a 16 story goes through on the basis of 'concessions to consultations', but also to take the focus of the debate
- The precedent they are citing are the towers in North Acton, which has very little low-rise housings, presumably this will set a precedent then for towers along Horn Lane south of the Crossrail Station
- When I pointed out the 20 story tower in the illustrations were actually 22 story, the top two to house the vents and lift mechanisms, I was assured the tower would be 20 all in and the illustration was a mistake
- I was told the height has been stepped down to ensure the surround residential streets to the south take the least amount of impact

Heritage
- I questioned the poor quality of design (very flat and untextured frontage) of most developments, and the architect seemed to engage quite well with this
- The site was a Walls Ice Cream factory previously, and there are thoughts of using that heritage to bring character to the development. Another architect there to answer questions suggested creating a factory style roof on the tower, to which I said - quite obviously I thought - that at 20 stories no one would be able to see it
- I was told that before Walls the site was an orchard and that they are thinking of using that to guide their planning and planting

Open Space
- The open spaces are gardens in the crescent towards the residential street and about (if I'm not mistaken) 8 gardens in the centre perhaps private, perhaps shared, perhaps communal.
- There is a grassy triangle to the North of the site which exists now, they mentioned they might section off a sympathetic triangular piece facing the current one and ask the Council to close the small slip road which would be in between so the development has a square park, with kids climbing frames etc. Not ideal next to a road coming off the A40, but let's see.
- I suggested allotments so the residents can  grow their own veg (gardening would also really help in any rehabilitation programs) we discussed that they do so on the roofs, so that whatever green space there is on the ground floor stays open and usable. The architect seemed to like that.

Green Tech
- I didn't see any solar panels etc. and asked for their plans re sustainability and clean technologies etc. I was told this would be decided and put into the application
- They did mention they were looking at a system the Germans use which is essentially a centrally controlled climate. I pointed out people needed to have windows that can be opened at will for fresh air, and they said this climate control system worked better if the climate could be completely controlled.

Public Meeting
- I asked if they would come to a meeting. I was told they didn't feel a top table and cinema style seating was a good way for them to gather their feedback. I did say it wasn't about feedback, but questions answered and they said they'd think about

Their parting message was that the details will be decided upon at the point of application and that they will be staying on to manage the development so have an interest in making sure residents are well consulted and as happy as possible.

Hope this helps!


Please do join CANForum, the local neighbourhood planning forum for Acton, simply and for free here: surveymonkey.com/s/PNJF7MT Follow us to Twitter here @CentralActon You can contact me here: chair@canforum.org


Thanks v much,
Sanya


Entire Thread
TopicDate PostedPosted By
Friary Park Estate regeneration07/08/14 14:38:00 Helen Lloyd
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/08/14 14:59:00 Chris Hurley
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration08/08/14 11:20:00 Nina Battleday
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 14:04:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 14:41:00 Richard Grange
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 16:07:00 Sara Nathan
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 00:06:00 Helen Lloyd
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 14:38:00 Kate Samano
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 15:09:00 Sanya Sheikh
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/11/14 21:06:00 Chris Petrie
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/11/14 22:25:00 Sanya Sheikh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 13:41:00 Eddy Leviten
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 17:37:00 Sanya Sheikh
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:36:00 Angela White
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:39:00 Angela White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:50:00 Angela White
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 00:25:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 01:15:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 12:06:00 Angela White
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 23:50:00 Chris Petrie
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 08:37:00 Kim Rugg
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:04:00 Angela White
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:06:00 Angela White
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:20:00 Angela White
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:49:00 Nina Battleday
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration22/11/14 14:43:00 Martin Sherry
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration25/11/14 00:06:00 Sanya Sheikh
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration25/11/14 08:38:00 Maria Pettit
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 10:06:00 Kim Rugg
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 13:54:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 15:08:00 Helen Lloyd
            Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration30/11/14 09:30:00 Chris Petrie
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration30/11/14 12:09:00 Helen Lloyd
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration01/12/14 20:46:00 Kim Rugg
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 08:41:00 Maria Pettit
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 10:10:00 Richard Grange
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 11:42:00 Helen Lloyd
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration06/12/14 12:57:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/12/14 20:55:00 Chris Petrie
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/12/14 22:50:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration09/12/14 13:05:00 Angela White
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 12:18:00 Kim Rugg
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 20:04:00 Tomasz Keller
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 21:29:00 Helen Lloyd
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/12/14 22:37:00 Angela White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/12/14 23:50:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration22/12/14 00:38:00 Angela White
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration08/01/15 16:47:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/01/15 06:51:00 Maire Lowe
         Catalyst Workshop reminder17/03/15 18:56:00 Angela White
   Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration17/03/15 19:17:00 Sanya Sheikh
      Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 14:00:00 Sanya Sheikh
         Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 16:57:00 Sara Nathan
            Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 20:49:00 Angela White
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 23:34:00 Lisa Shackleton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration21/03/15 22:33:00 ken white
                     Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 00:14:00 Angela White
                        Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 09:38:00 Chris Hurley
                           Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 10:11:00 Helen Lloyd
                              Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 12:40:00 Angela White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 15:29:00 Maire Lowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 17:17:00 Angela White
                                       Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 16:04:00 Angela White
                                          Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 17:57:00 Maria Pettit
                                             Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 20:21:00 Angela White
                                                Re:Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes17/04/15 17:59:00 Angela White
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes17/04/15 23:56:00 Helen Lloyd
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 21:22:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 21:51:00 Angela White
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 22:08:00 Angela White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 22:58:00 Lisa Shackleton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 17:47:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 01:03:00 Helen Lloyd
         Covenants?19/04/15 10:16:00 Victor Mishiku
            Re:Covenants?19/04/15 10:39:00 Angela White
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 21:01:00 Julian Smith
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 22:23:00 Helen Lloyd
         Friary Park Estate 20/04/15 23:56:00 Victor Mishiku
            Re:Friary Park Estate 23/04/15 11:32:00 Angela White
               Re:Re:Friary Park Estate 06/05/15 14:01:00 Angela White
                  Getting High25/05/15 13:28:00 Angela White
                     Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?30/05/15 13:35:00 Angela White
                        Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?07/06/15 20:43:00 Fiona Fisher
                           Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?07/06/15 23:11:00 Jan Farlow
                              Re:Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?08/06/15 00:17:00 Fiona Fisher
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?08/06/15 08:51:00 Chris Hurley
                                    Public Meeting tonight, Tues 28th July, 7.30pm28/07/15 08:01:00 Angela White
                                       Last Call for signing the online petition29/07/15 18:34:00 Angela White
                                          Wells and tanks underneath Friary Park, etc.06/08/15 22:17:00 Angela White
                                             Re:Wells and tanks underneath Friary Park, etc.06/08/15 22:47:00 Maire Lowe

Forum Home