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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration
Posted by: Chris Petrie
Date/Time: 30/11/14 09:30:00

I attended the session from 6-7 on Friday. Only the drawings that were in the news letter were available. They have nothing more than that at this stage and are trying to gage the reaction, through sessions such as this, before they approach the local council and start paying architects for finalized plans.

I kept trying to get some firm figures out of them i.e.  what will be the percentage increase of people living on the site? How much is the development expected to cost and therefore how many private sales need to be made?  How many units of each size will there be? Ignoring the biggest tower, what is the proposed height of the other blocks over 4 storeys that are towards the A40 side. None of these questions could be answered.

The message they were giving is that they can only do the redevelopment if they can raise enough money by getting sufficient numbers of people on site. When I asked what this number was they said that it is not known yet. Following on from this I was saying that the tower of course had to go. Their response was that the units lost from this would therefore need to be added back elsewhere. I then responded that if any lost units MUST be added back then they must know how many total units are needed to finance the build. Again they claimed that this number is unknown. I think the numbers are known but are not being shared.

I can only really conclude that, as we probably already suspected, at this stage they are simply planning towards absolute maximum capacity. All they care about at this stage is financing the build and getting as much money from the site as possible, nothing more.

There was a town planner that joined the conversation and tried to tell me that a high rise building overlooking neighbouring properties would increase their value. Once I had stopped laughing and had then picked my jaw up off the floor I corrected him (unbelievable!).

I asked about green spaces and barely any could be pointed out. They pointed out the proposal for 'green roofs' which of course are pointless for people at ground level. They mentioned that some green roofs mat be used as terraces which, on top of the balconies, would provide even more opportunity for overlooking. All permieter blocks will be 4 storeys therefore dwarfing neighbouring 2 and 3 maximum houses.

I could go on.... but to summarize, there were no positives whatsoever from this session, just many more negatives. If people don't sufficiently oppose this plan they will be going ahead with it as shown in the sketches.


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Friary Park Estate regeneration07/08/14 14:38:00 Helen Lloyd
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/08/14 14:59:00 Chris Hurley
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration08/08/14 11:20:00 Nina Battleday
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 14:04:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 14:41:00 Richard Grange
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration14/11/14 16:07:00 Sara Nathan
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 00:06:00 Helen Lloyd
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 14:38:00 Kate Samano
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration15/11/14 15:09:00 Sanya Sheikh
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/11/14 21:06:00 Chris Petrie
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/11/14 22:25:00 Sanya Sheikh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 13:41:00 Eddy Leviten
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 17:37:00 Sanya Sheikh
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:36:00 Angela White
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:39:00 Angela White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/11/14 23:50:00 Angela White
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 00:25:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 01:15:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 12:06:00 Angela White
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration20/11/14 23:50:00 Chris Petrie
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 08:37:00 Kim Rugg
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:04:00 Angela White
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:06:00 Angela White
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:20:00 Angela White
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/11/14 22:49:00 Nina Battleday
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration22/11/14 14:43:00 Martin Sherry
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration25/11/14 00:06:00 Sanya Sheikh
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration25/11/14 08:38:00 Maria Pettit
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 10:06:00 Kim Rugg
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 13:54:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration28/11/14 15:08:00 Helen Lloyd
            Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration30/11/14 09:30:00 Chris Petrie
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration30/11/14 12:09:00 Helen Lloyd
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration01/12/14 20:46:00 Kim Rugg
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 08:41:00 Maria Pettit
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 10:10:00 Richard Grange
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration03/12/14 11:42:00 Helen Lloyd
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration06/12/14 12:57:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/12/14 20:55:00 Chris Petrie
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration07/12/14 22:50:00 Sanya Sheikh
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration09/12/14 13:05:00 Angela White
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 12:18:00 Kim Rugg
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 20:04:00 Tomasz Keller
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/12/14 21:29:00 Helen Lloyd
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/12/14 22:37:00 Angela White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration21/12/14 23:50:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration22/12/14 00:38:00 Angela White
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration08/01/15 16:47:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration10/01/15 06:51:00 Maire Lowe
         Catalyst Workshop reminder17/03/15 18:56:00 Angela White
   Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration17/03/15 19:17:00 Sanya Sheikh
      Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 14:00:00 Sanya Sheikh
         Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 16:57:00 Sara Nathan
            Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 20:49:00 Angela White
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration20/03/15 23:34:00 Lisa Shackleton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contradications re. Friary Park Estate regeneration21/03/15 22:33:00 ken white
                     Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 00:14:00 Angela White
                        Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 09:38:00 Chris Hurley
                           Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 10:11:00 Helen Lloyd
                              Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 12:40:00 Angela White
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 15:29:00 Maire Lowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Meeting tonight at 7.30pm - St Dunstan's Church Hall 7.30pm24/03/15 17:17:00 Angela White
                                       Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 16:04:00 Angela White
                                          Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 17:57:00 Maria Pettit
                                             Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes16/04/15 20:21:00 Angela White
                                                Re:Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes17/04/15 17:59:00 Angela White
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Antilles House, Sheltered homes17/04/15 23:56:00 Helen Lloyd
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 21:22:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 21:51:00 Angela White
         Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 22:08:00 Angela White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration18/04/15 22:58:00 Lisa Shackleton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 17:47:00 Chris Petrie
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 01:03:00 Helen Lloyd
         Covenants?19/04/15 10:16:00 Victor Mishiku
            Re:Covenants?19/04/15 10:39:00 Angela White
   Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 21:01:00 Julian Smith
      Re:Re:Friary Park Estate regeneration19/04/15 22:23:00 Helen Lloyd
         Friary Park Estate 20/04/15 23:56:00 Victor Mishiku
            Re:Friary Park Estate 23/04/15 11:32:00 Angela White
               Re:Re:Friary Park Estate 06/05/15 14:01:00 Angela White
                  Getting High25/05/15 13:28:00 Angela White
                     Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?30/05/15 13:35:00 Angela White
                        Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?07/06/15 20:43:00 Fiona Fisher
                           Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?07/06/15 23:11:00 Jan Farlow
                              Re:Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?08/06/15 00:17:00 Fiona Fisher
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Will all residents be allowed to return to Friary Park?08/06/15 08:51:00 Chris Hurley
                                    Public Meeting tonight, Tues 28th July, 7.30pm28/07/15 08:01:00 Angela White
                                       Last Call for signing the online petition29/07/15 18:34:00 Angela White
                                          Wells and tanks underneath Friary Park, etc.06/08/15 22:17:00 Angela White
                                             Re:Wells and tanks underneath Friary Park, etc.06/08/15 22:47:00 Maire Lowe

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