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Topic: Reply to Jean
Posted by: Toby Young
Date/Time: 14/07/10 00:19:00

Sorry Jean. There are so many criticisms to reply to it sometimes gets a bit overwhelming. I hope you will give me credit for attempting to answer at least some of the points people have raised in this forum.

You essentially made two arguments. First, that we don't need another secondary school in Ealing. The existing schools were good enough for your children. Why aren't they good enough for mine? Second, how can a group of amateurs expect to do a better job than the local authority?

Taking the second point first, we don't intend to manage the school ourselves. Rather, we'll subcontract the day-to-day operation of the school to an education provider with a successful track record of running schools. Together, we'll hire an experienced head and a senior leadership team. My role and the role of other people involved in setting up the school will be to sit on the Board of Governors. We'll be no more or less qualified than most school governors. Bear in mind that the Steering Committee now includes several experienced teachers.

On the first point, the simple answer is that we're going to need some new schools in Ealing given the current population boom. Ealing Council recognises this which is why it planned to provide an additional 3,200 places – and that would only accommodate the anticipated demand up until 2018. After that, we'd need more places. Now that the BSF programme has been wound up, those plans have had to be shelved. Whatever your views about the pros and cons of winding up that programme, the fact remains that the need for more places is now more urgent than ever. Without some additional secondary school places, there are going to be some 10 and 11-year-olds in the borough with nowhere to go.

Now your view might be that if we need another school in Ealing -- or, more likely, another two schools -- then the local authority should be the body to set them up. But why? Yes, the local authority has made a decent fist of running the borough's secondary schools and the average level of attainment in the borough at Key Stage 4 is above national average. Four of the schools have been deemed "outstanding" by Ofsted. But that isn't a compelling reason to insist that the local authority should have a complete monopoly over taxpayer-funded education in the borough (with the exception of the West London Academy). The fact that the status quo isn't awful doesn't mean it can't be improved. Why not give an independent group an opportunity to set up a school that's markedly different to the local authority controlled schools? Even if we don't improve on the borough's average level of attainment – and I believe we will – we will still succeed in providing local parents with more choice. It really isn't a case of not thinking the existing schools are good enough, though some of them plainly aren't. Just wanting something a little bit different.

At worst, Free Schools will be a worthwhile experiment. They may not succeed in raising the average level of attainment in England, but then again they may. To assume that the system we have at the moment is the best we can hope for and that any departure from it will automatically mean a lowering of attainment is unduly pessimistic. Indeed, it's an attitude that, not so long ago, would have been categorised as "conservative". One of the ironies of the Free Schools debate is that Conservatives, like me, are criticised for being naive optimists, whereas Labour supporters, who one would have expected to be in favour of new energy and ideas in education, have become the reactionaries, clinging to the status quo and exploiting ignorance and fear in an attempt to preserve it.

I hope this satisfies you Jean. But please do respond if I haven't adequately addressed your arguments.


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Toby's new school.......22/06/10 09:20:00 Dee Cook
   Re:Toby's new school.......22/06/10 10:38:00 Chris Hurley
      Re:Re:Toby's new school.......22/06/10 12:02:00 Thomas Barry
         Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......22/06/10 14:01:00 Phil Conran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......25/06/10 07:51:00 James Knights
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......25/06/10 23:36:00 Colin Carroll
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......25/06/10 23:54:00 Jen Morty
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 08:14:00 Colin Carroll
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 12:44:00 Jim Wong
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 13:56:00 Iain Muir
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 18:51:00 Colin Carroll
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 19:52:00 Jen Morty
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 20:37:00 Colin Carroll
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......26/06/10 20:55:00 Jen Morty
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......27/06/10 12:08:00 Colin Carroll
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......27/06/10 12:49:00 Jen Morty
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Toby's new school.......27/06/10 13:30:00 Colin Carroll
                                                   Invitation ?27/06/10 15:42:00 Jim Wong
                                                      Re:Invitation ?27/06/10 17:22:00 Jen Morty
                                                         Re:Re:Invitation ?27/06/10 17:41:00 Jim Wong
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Invitation ?27/06/10 19:10:00 Jean Heaphy
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Invitation ?27/06/10 19:39:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Invitation ?27/06/10 19:43:00 Jean Heaphy
                                                                     Where is Toby?27/06/10 19:51:00 Jim Wong
                                                                        Re:Where is Toby?27/06/10 21:08:00 Iain Muir
                                                                           Re:Re:Where is Toby?27/06/10 21:30:00 Jim Wong
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Where is Toby?27/06/10 22:20:00 Charlie Ben-Nathan
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Where is Toby?27/06/10 23:26:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                 Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 00:11:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                    Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 08:21:00 Charlie Ben-Nathan
                                                                                       Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 08:57:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                       Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 09:04:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 09:12:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 11:24:00 Toby Young
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??28/06/10 23:01:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Middle class Bashing??30/06/10 21:19:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                In the news today ...06/07/10 12:03:00 Kim Bobsin
                                                                                                   Re:In the news today ...06/07/10 23:00:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                      Re:Re:In the news today ...07/07/10 00:04:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...07/07/10 01:31:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                            Real Financial trouble07/07/10 07:36:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...07/07/10 09:14:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...07/07/10 13:47:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...07/07/10 21:49:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 11:32:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 11:40:00 Peter Todd
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 12:40:00 Paul Grady
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 13:45:00 Iain Muir
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 13:49:00 Paul Grady
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 14:18:00 Charlie Mawer
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 14:46:00 Anne Brown
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 15:18:00 Christine Siobhsn Oktay
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 15:24:00 Charlie Mawer
                                                                                                                                 Show us the money!08/07/10 15:37:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                    Re:Show us the money!08/07/10 15:58:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                                                                                    Re:Show us the money!08/07/10 16:01:00 Charlie Ben-Nathan
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Show us the money!08/07/10 19:21:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                                              Exams08/07/10 15:40:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                 Re:Exams - for Charlie08/07/10 17:54:00 Anne Brown
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 09:44:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...08/07/10 19:37:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 00:23:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 09:40:00 Charlie Mawer
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 10:05:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 10:13:00 Christine Siobhsn Oktay
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 10:29:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...09/07/10 12:30:00 Iain Muir
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...10/07/10 17:09:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...10/07/10 18:18:00 Iain Muir
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...10/07/10 18:59:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...10/07/10 22:17:00 Iain Muir
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...10/07/10 23:13:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:In the news today ...11/07/10 00:44:00 Jean Heaphy
                                                                                                                                                Earl Grey Tea Special!11/07/10 01:21:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                                   Re:Earl Grey Tea Special!11/07/10 08:21:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                                                      And as for Stephen Pound11/07/10 08:32:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                                                         Re:And as for Stephen Pound12/07/10 12:35:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound12/07/10 22:56:00 Maire Lowe
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 07:45:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 08:40:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 09:10:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 09:45:00 Andy Magee
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 12:39:00 Samantha Christine Hill
                                                                                                                                                                              A little knowledge is a dangerous thing- S Johnson13/07/10 12:53:00 Christine Siobhsn Oktay
                                                                                                                                                                                 good therapy session13/07/10 14:52:00 Jim Wong
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 13:00:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                                                                                 RE: Therapy13/07/10 15:21:00 Christine Siobhsn Oktay
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:And as for Stephen Pound13/07/10 21:48:00 Jean Heaphy
                                                                                                                                                                                    Reply to Jean14/07/10 00:19:00 Toby Young
                                                                                                                                                                                       Another query14/07/10 08:07:00 Samantha Christine Hill
                                                                                                                                                                                       Re:Reply to Jean14/07/10 08:19:00 Jean Heaphy
                                                                                                                                                                                          If you dont like the message shoot the messenger.22/07/10 22:55:00 Colin Carroll
                                                                                                                                                                                             Re:If you dont like the message shoot the messenger.22/07/10 23:07:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:If you dont like the message shoot the messenger.22/07/10 23:22:00 Iain Muir
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:If you dont like the message shoot the messenger.23/07/10 05:30:00 Andy Magee
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:If you dont like the message shoot the messenger.23/07/10 09:35:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Documentary about Toby's school on telly  this week25/09/10 23:03:00 Sara Nathan

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