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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......
Posted by: Andy Magee
Date/Time: 28/01/11 10:40:00

Although I support the NUT on this action it does not mean I support them unequivocally.  I certainly don’t think I should have to justify every action they have ever taken or which education successes they choose to celebrate.  I am of the opinion that society and education is a better for the existence of unions.  Others are entitled to disagree.  I feel I have adequately explained in previous posts why I think teachers are justified in taking legitimate action to stop schools becoming academies.  Although I readily agree that the existence of unsatisfactory teachers is unacceptable and very frustrating; I have a child in school as well.  I don’t understand why my supporting this group of local teachers in an outstanding local school means I should have to defend every ‘dud’ teacher that has ever worked.

However, as you have asked me my opinion I do think the teaching unions often have a negative influence when trying to prevent the removal of unsatisfactory teachers.  However, I don't think all the blame can be laid at their door.  Many inner-London schools have children that demonstrate an unbelievable range of challenging behaviours and have a massive range of educational needs.  There have been many ill-thought out central government initiatives over the years and recently there has been a steady decline in the funding.  In these circumstances it can be very hard to do a good or even adequate job.  More importantly this also makes it very hard for school leaders to produce indisputable evidence that a teacher is unsatisfactory.  How do you effectively defend against the charge that the teacher is doing a satisfactory job and it is the pupils who are unwilling or unable to be taught or that the school is not providing adequate resources and support for a struggling teacher?  There is also a shortage of teachers.  This is particularly acute in certain subjects and in certain types of schools.  Is there any point removing an unsatisfactory teacher from a post unless you can be reasonably sure that you can get a replacement that can and will do a significantly better job in the same circumstances? 

I don’t see why the WLFS would be better at addressing these challenges than any other inner-London comprehensive school.  Their staff will still be entitled to join a union.  In fact, as they have removed the requirement for teachers in free schools to have a teaching qualification and their accommodation for September appears to be far inferior to what most schools have I don’t see why the teaching or the learning would be any better than any other Hammersmith and Fulham school.


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Bijou School set for White City location.......18/01/11 11:46:00 Iain Muir
   Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......18/01/11 12:28:00 Anne Brown
      Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......23/01/11 22:00:00 Toby Young
         Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......23/01/11 22:58:00 Iain Muir
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......23/01/11 23:51:00 Toby Young
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 08:59:00 Colin Carroll
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 09:49:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 13:59:00 Colin Carroll
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 14:53:00 Toby Young
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 18:30:00 Iain Muir
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......25/01/11 19:07:00 Colin Carroll
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......01/02/11 19:28:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......01/02/11 19:35:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
   Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......24/01/11 19:09:00 Andy Jones
   Bullies, liars and hypocrites are 25/01/11 10:06:00 Andy Magee
      Re:Bullies, liars and hypocrites are 25/01/11 10:28:00 Toby Young
         Re:Re:Bullies, liars and hypocrites are 26/01/11 09:51:00 Andy Jones
   Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......25/01/11 13:31:00 Andy Magee
      Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......26/01/11 10:45:00 Maire Lowe
      Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......26/01/11 12:38:00 Sarah Harris
         Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......26/01/11 16:13:00 Andy Magee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......26/01/11 21:03:00 Maire Lowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......27/01/11 10:32:00 Andy Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......28/01/11 10:40:00 Andy Magee
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......28/01/11 11:03:00 Maire Lowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......28/01/11 11:39:00 Andy Magee
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......28/01/11 12:57:00 Maire Lowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......28/01/11 15:57:00 Andy Magee
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 01:27:00 Toby Young
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 08:06:00 Andy Magee
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 08:45:00 Andy Magee
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 18:58:00 Iain Muir
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 22:10:00 Toby Young
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 23:46:00 Colin Carroll
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......29/01/11 23:59:00 Colin Carroll
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......30/01/11 19:34:00 Andy Magee
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......30/01/11 20:13:00 Toby Young
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......31/01/11 00:25:00 Iain Muir
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......31/01/11 00:49:00 Toby Young
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......31/01/11 15:05:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bijou School set for White City location.......31/01/11 16:33:00 Maire Lowe
                                             polemic comment  (not to be confused with the facts)31/01/11 15:50:00 Andy Magee
                                                Re:polemic comment  (not to be confused with the facts)31/01/11 19:40:00 Terence Barker
                                                   Re:Re:polemic comment  (not to be confused with the facts)31/01/11 21:32:00 Toby Young
                                                      Re:Re:Re:polemic comment  (not to be confused with the facts)31/01/11 22:32:00 Iain Muir
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:polemic comment  (not to be confused with the facts)31/01/11 22:42:00 Colin Carroll
                                                            Re:Abusive Comments On This Forum31/01/11 23:58:00 Paul Ambridge
                                                               Re:Re:Abusive Comments On This Forum01/02/11 00:32:00 Toby Young
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Abusive Comments On This Forum01/02/11 08:37:00 Maria Pettit
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Abusive Comments On This Forum01/02/11 19:40:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
                                                                        Rant in Peace Toby.03/02/11 16:31:00 Andy Magee
                                                                           Re:Rant in Peace Toby.04/02/11 08:12:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
                                                                              Re:Re:Rant in Peace Toby.04/02/11 12:08:00 Andy Magee
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Rant in Peace Toby.15/02/11 19:27:00 Jeremy Thorpe-Woods
   Sycophan?04/02/11 08:26:00 Andy Magee
      Re:Sycophan?04/02/11 10:31:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Sycophan?04/02/11 10:42:00 Maire Lowe
            Re:Re:Re:Sycophan?08/02/11 09:01:00 Andy Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Sycophan?11/02/11 17:24:00 Terence Barker
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sycophan?15/02/11 08:42:00 Andy Jones
                     Education Guardian today - Feb 15th15/02/11 10:57:00 Sara Nathan
                        Re:Education Guardian today - Feb 15th15/02/11 11:09:00 Maire Lowe
                           Re:Re:Education Guardian today - Feb 15th15/02/11 11:34:00 Sara Nathan
                              Re:Re:Re:Education Guardian today - Feb 15th16/02/11 00:59:00 Iain Muir
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Education Guardian today - Feb 15th16/02/11 17:21:00 Iain Muir
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Education Guardian today - Feb 15th16/02/11 18:30:00 Sara Nathan
                                       Whither free schools - Toby young article18/03/11 16:59:00 Sara Nathan
                                          Re:Whither free schools - Toby young article19/03/11 11:28:00 Chris Hurley
                                             Re:Re:Whither free schools - Toby young article19/03/11 11:33:00 Maire Lowe
                                                Re:Re:Re:Whither free schools - Toby young article19/03/11 22:58:00 Colin Carroll
                                          Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission21/03/11 12:03:00 Andy Magee
                                             Re:Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission21/03/11 12:24:00 Maire Lowe
                                                Re:Re:Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission21/03/11 12:40:00 Andy Magee
                                             Re:Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission21/03/11 12:32:00 Sarah Harris
                                                Re:Re:Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission21/03/11 15:11:00 Sara Nathan
                                                Re:Re:Free schools: founders' children could gain priority admission22/03/11 09:01:00 Alan Fairchild

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