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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines
Posted by: Richard Jennings
Date/Time: 01/04/10 22:27:00

"Do you mind me asking if you have contested a PCN before, hence your knowledge ?"

Yes, I appealed in 2007 against a PCN for parking in a suspended bay while trying to help the people (my neighbours) who had organised the suspension.  Hounslow gave up when they saw my 4-page appeal to PATAS with three grounds of appeal.  But I've learned a lot more from pursuing other cases like yours where people have been unfairly targeted.

To be honest, your case is a bit marginal, and a successful appeal could well result in a yellow line being painted across the end of the road, which should be there anyway.

The nearest relevant case in the PATAS "Key Cases" on their website is Carr v. L.B. of Haringey, 2007, which concerned a similar PCN not in a CPZ, hence no yellow lines anywhere near.  The adjudicator's judgement is at

The 50cm rule is contained in section 85 of the Traffic Management Act 2004, which says that you are not allowed to park if "no part of the vehicle is within 50 centimetres of the edge of the carriageway".  Note that there's no mention of "kerb", so it doesn't matter whether there's a kerb along the front of the wall.  The adjudicator in the Haringey case was quite clear that the dead end of the road was an "edge".

(If your PCN mentions the "kerb", that's not the standard description authorised by London Councils, and doesn't correspond to the Act, so that might be worth mentioning too.)

In your case, it's not quite as clear-cut as the Haringey case, as you do (I assume) have yellow lines along the kerbs by the end houses.  But it's a requirement of a controlled parking zone that yellow lines are laid everywhere that's not marked out as a parking place (Traffic Signs Regulations 2002, section 4).  Ealing have failed to do this at the end of Shakespeare Road.

Feel free to mail me (click on my name above) if you need any further advice.

Good luck!

Entire Thread
TopicDate PostedPosted By
Contesting parking fines01/04/10 09:20:00 Joanne McBride
   Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 10:16:00 Richard Jennings
      Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 10:38:00 Joanne McBride
         Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 16:31:00 Richard Jennings
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 16:46:00 Joanne McBride
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 21:53:00 Michelle Legare
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 22:28:00 Richard Jennings
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines01/04/10 22:27:00 Richard Jennings
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines06/04/10 10:02:00 Kate Samano
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines06/04/10 10:32:00 Roy Gillett
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines06/04/10 11:31:00 Kate Samano
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines06/04/10 23:46:00 Michelle Legare
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 09:19:00 Kate Samano
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 11:24:00 Roy Gillett
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 12:14:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 12:20:00 Michelle Legare
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 12:43:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 23:56:00 Richard Jennings
                                       Correction: You CAN make an online appeal to Ealing08/04/10 16:22:00 Richard Jennings
                                          Re:Correction: You CAN make an online appeal to Ealing23/04/10 13:06:00 Veki Pavlova
                                             Stopping to pick up passengers in loading bay23/04/10 15:44:00 Richard Jennings
                                                Re:Stopping to pick up passengers in loading bay23/04/10 17:14:00 Veki Pavlova
                                                   Re:Re:Stopping to pick up passengers in loading bay23/04/10 21:55:00 Richard Jennings
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Stopping to pick up passengers in loading bay24/04/10 08:58:00 Veki Pavlova
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines07/04/10 23:36:00 Richard Jennings
                                 Re:Contesting parking fines13/08/10 21:55:00 Siobhan Martin
                                    Re:Re:Contesting parking fines13/08/10 23:17:00 Richard Jennings
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines08/04/10 11:44:00 Roy Gillett
                              Re:Contesting parking fines09/04/10 08:29:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Contesting parking fines13/08/10 20:50:00 Joanne McBride
                                    Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines13/08/10 23:24:00 Richard Jennings
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Contesting parking fines31/08/10 17:26:00 Joanne McBride

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