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Topic: Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....
Posted by: Iain Muir
Date/Time: 12/01/11 00:55:00

Hi, I posted above asking why the objections as London simply needs many more homes to meet demand. I looked at the plans , read the supporting documents and today had a look at the site.
I agree that the architects have been somewhat inventive in parts of their design statement, also that the building has some interesting history and that past usage as a motor repair garage of part of the site might have been a useful amenity for some local residents (although all too often residents complain about nuisance from such places!)
Long standing use of the main building as offices does not seem to be an issue, whether there is any demand for continuing use is doubtful.
Residential use for the whole site seems a sensible solution so it is up to the owner/developer to choose whether to convert or demolish and rebuild.
The building is not Listed, Locally Listed or in a Conservation Area.
Newbuild will increase the number of habitable rooms on the site, improve significantly the energy efficiency/carbon footprint of the homes, and provide modern attractive? design. It will also maximise the value of the site for the landowner/developer.
Conversion of the main house is no doubt feasible and might produce attractive homes though the expense of internal restructuring and retrofitting to meet current standards on energy efficiency and other building control matters might make costs unacceptable. If the main building is retained how will the rest of the site be used to maximise habitable rooms, meet design standards, planning and value to the owners?
Yes it is sad to see an old building go, I have a keen interest in Local History and architecture and wish to see what we have which is viable preservered but from the landowner/developers perspective, it is a ‘no brainer’
As for the design? The 4 houses will be in a similar style to some other houses in the road but to modern standards including energy production and efficiency. (Shakespeare has the typical mix of different styles as different builders produced small numbers on small plots, before going bust!) They will add to this mix. I do not have strong views as to their design. Some would say better to use a striking modern design rather than a pastiche....The treatment of the ‘separate house’ three flats matches the houses and I think OK. Excavation of the basement to a lower level to facilitate the car stacker will be a concern to the immediate neighbour but is not a planning matter if it is clearly differentiated from basement development to extend non basement terraced/semi’s in the area.
I would however advise prospective purchasers to allow for large service charges, as stackers always break down and cost a fortune to fix!
To summarise, Shakespeare Rd will lose an empty Victorian Villa, last used as offices, with an interesting history and an empty garage workshop.
Or gain 4 good sized 4 bed houses, three flats, all with gardens/garden access and a concealed car stacker for 3 cars .
London needs more homes, where will your children be able to live?. Ok these will not be affordable to most but seem a good addition to the mix.
Over to the planners, who I suspect will recommend for approval...
Iain
PS I have no connection with the land owners/developers or especially the Conservative Party (doubt they have any interest either!)


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Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 07/01/11 19:59:00 Ellie Rose
   Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 07/01/11 23:49:00 Sara Nathan
      Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 08/01/11 00:49:00 Iain Muir
         Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 08/01/11 07:16:00 Ellie Rose
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 08/01/11 09:40:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 08/01/11 12:51:00 Richard Grange
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 08/01/11 22:24:00 Ellie Rose
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 09/01/11 18:42:00 Sara Nathan
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 09/01/11 19:29:00 Maire Lowe
                           Planning process10/01/11 09:24:00 Maire Lowe
                              Re:Planning process11/01/11 18:47:00 Steve Donnelly
                                 Re:Re:Planning process11/01/11 19:22:00 Maire Lowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Planning process11/01/11 23:53:00 Sara Nathan
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Planning process12/01/11 07:41:00 Maire Lowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 09/01/11 22:55:00 Richard Grange
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 10/01/11 09:07:00 Ellie Rose
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 10/01/11 09:20:00 Dee Cook
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 12:16:00 Sara Nathan
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 13:24:00 Richard Grange
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 14:21:00 Dee Cook
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 14:50:00 Ellie Rose
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 15:26:00 Dee Cook
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Poet's corner residents call meeting at The Rocket this Sunday 11/01/11 18:18:00 Sara Nathan
                                                Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 00:55:00 Iain Muir
                                                   Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 08:55:00 Dee Cook
                                                      Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 09:10:00 Sara Nathan
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 10:06:00 Iain Muir
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 10:52:00 Dee Cook
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 11:01:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 11:09:00 Ellie Rose
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 11:55:00 Dee Cook
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....12/01/11 12:37:00 Ellie Rose
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....13/01/11 10:10:00 Dee Cook
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....13/01/11 12:58:00 Richard Grange
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....13/01/11 13:09:00 Fred Bray
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just to put a cat amongst the pigeons....17/01/11 21:11:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                       What to expect !!    23/02/11 12:41:00 Fred Bray
                                                                                          Re:What to expect !!     23/02/11 14:46:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                             Re:Re:What to expect !!     24/02/11 13:30:00 Dee Cook
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:What to expect !!     24/02/11 15:12:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:What to expect !!     25/02/11 14:46:00 Steve Donnelly
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What to expect !!     25/02/11 15:55:00 Sara Nathan
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What to expect !!     25/02/11 17:57:00 Steve Donnelly
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What to expect !!     25/02/11 18:34:00 Iain Muir

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