| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | |
| Posted by: | John Theodore Clark | |
| Date/Time: | 15/11/09 09:43:00 |
| "I did not imply any such thing". So this means that you accept that blood transfusions save lives overall? Seawater is of course saline solution. Army hospitals do use saline, as do all mainstream hospitals. Quinton is a scientist who died in 1925, when blood transfusions were in their infancy. You will find many accounts of miracles around that time, and many doctors who carried out pioneering research also sold quack cures. What is described is simply what one would expect if an animal had lost a small portion of its blood and had it replaced by saline solution. If, on the other hand, you believe that you can bleed a dog dry, and then replace most of its blood by saline, you are dreaming. Giovanni Boni was an alternative therapist - a spiritualist and healer who believed in the laying on of hands, rather than a mainstream doctor. Let's Live magazine caters for those who believe in "natural treatments", including the use of heat to cure cancer. In many cases substitutes for blood do exist, and the science is progressing, but for the moment, we are largely reliant on blood products. If blood products were banned tomorrow, many thousands would die each year. Surgeons do not use blood products because they are stupid, blind, or brainwashed - they do so because they know that in many cases there is no alternative, and that their patients will die if they do not use them. Paying for blood is an ongoing debate. Obviously it carries disease risks, but at the same time, in many countries if the practice were discontinued there would not be enough blood to meet demand, and people would die as a result. As usual, you seem to have copied from a JW cribsheet. I have found near identical sentences on a number of fora. Why is it that JWs are discouraged from reading things that might conflict with the views of their faith? Why are you no supposed to read the Bible, for instance, without a JW cribsheet beside it? |
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| Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | 14/11/09 13:42:00 | John Theodore Clark |
| Re:Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | 14/11/09 15:35:00 | John Theodore Clark |
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| Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | 14/11/09 18:03:00 | John Theodore Clark |
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| Re:Re:Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | 15/11/09 09:43:00 | John Theodore Clark |
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