| Topic: | Re:Re:Re: Jehovah's Witness blood tranfusion | |
| Posted by: | Dave Hughes | |
| Date/Time: | 14/11/09 21:44:00 |
| I did not imply any such thing. You always try to twist things when you get into a corner don't you John. Blood “Substitutes” Excel ♦ Under the direction of the University of Munich’s Institute for Surgical Research, 31 clinics in southern Bavaria have made a three-year study comparing patients given blood transfusions with those receiving blood “substitutes.” The findings indicate that such “substitutes” result in far fewer complications than do transfusions. In the use of 200,000 units of blood “substitutes,” complications arose only in 0.033 percent of the cases. However, several dangers of blood transfusions were cited in the report. It was said that in some large cities every 10th transfusion patient was infected with hepatitis. Blood Transfusions or Seawater IN THE March 1970 issue of the magazine Let’s Live, appears an article by Dr. Giovanni Boni and Dr. Pierre Lafarge, in which they speak of “the uniqueness of the relationship between a body and its own blood.” Then the doctors state that there has been a long process of brainwashing to induce people to believe that they can “safely ignore this unique relationship and to believe that a blood transfusion from another person is at all possible.” After admitting that medical literature “fully agrees on the dangers of blood transfusions,” the doctors say: “One cannot but ask oneself how it could be that a practice so dangerous, irrational and ‘primitive’ is still continued today, and is, in a way, enforced.” They ask: “Why take useless chances when an alternative is available?” What is the alternative that they recommend? They go on to say: “This alternative consists of performing transfusions with a fluid which is absolutely harmless, is perfectly accepted by the body, easy to procure and easy to store, and which is as alive as the blood that runs in our veins. We are talking of ‘sea water.’” They explain this as being natural seawater specially collected and processed. “In France it is used quite extensively (even in Army hospitals) and, is called Plasma de Quinton.” Relating an experiment performed by R. Quinton in the laboratories of a noted French physiologist, the doctors report: A dog “was bled ‘white’ through the femoral artery; that is the bleeding was continued until it stopped spontaneously.” Immediately “sea water” was injected into the dog. Though the animal was extremely weak and unable to move, twenty-one hours later “the dog was running around.” After about a week the animal was ‘exceedingly active and vivacious,’ as a matter of fact, much more so than before the experience.” Five years later the dog was very much alive. The doctors prefer the processed natural seawater to an artificial saline solution. They believe there is an element of difference between the two that “escapes our system of measurement.” They point out that the composition of blood “is amazingly similar to that of ‘sea water.’” Obviously there are alternatives to dangerous blood transfusion. Blood Business “Booming” ♦ “The world market in human blood is booming, with the trade estimated to be worth well above $1 billion annually,” reports a feature story in the Vancouver Sun. It added: “The high profit margins and a fast-growing demand for human blood in wealthy nations is being filled, . . . by a relatively small number of the poorest people in developing nations. Recipients are charged about 40 times its cost.” The report claims that some 40,000 in south India support themselves by regularly selling their blood. Though the account asserts that it is the increase in heart surgery that has swelled the demand for blood, “one operation needing some 60 donations,” the fact is that centers in Texas, Toronto, New York and California are doing heart surgery without transfusions of blood and claiming equal or better success. Will such bloodless surgery become popular if it puts some people out of business? “Liquid Russian Roulette” ● Selling their blood for money is a way of life with thousands of people today. In Karachi, Pakistan, Dr. Fauzia Qureshi of Jinnah Hospital says that 90 percent of the blood donors there are professionals—unemployed, infirm, often addicted to drugs, generally in bad health. Japan’s drug companies rely on bought blood for half their supply, and “The Daily Yomiuri” of Tokyo says that “this may very well account for the fact that the incidence of serum hepatitis is still at the same level” as it was ten years ago. The situation in the United States is similar. An article in “New York” magazine tells of professional donors who sell a pint of their blood as many as 444 times in a period of only four years. But whether it is bought or not, blood is potentially dangerous. “We estimate that 5,000 patients a year die from complications related to blood transfusions,” Dr. Clive O. Callender, transplant director of Howard University Medical College, is quoted as saying. “The most lethal complication is hepatitis. We believe that 1,500 to 3,000 patients die each year from hepatitis related to blood transfusions.” (“National Enquirer,” May 6, 1975) For long it was thought that freezing serum for as much as a year would kill the hepatitis virus. Then, last year, a laboratory technician at Walter Reed Army Hospital thawed out a blood sample taken back in 1941. He found that it contained large quantities of hepatitis virus—still alive after thirty-three years. No wonder the article in “New York” magazine reporting on this calls blood transfusions “liquid Russian roulette.” |
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