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Topic: Re:SITE VISIT  Tomorrow Morning 9.10am 3rd September
Posted by: Hasan Ukra
Date/Time: 03/09/11 13:35:00

My family home is next door to the proposed development. I attended the committee site vist this morning and examined some of the submitted documents after which I wrote to the Head of Planning Services Ms Aileen Jones to express my dissatisfaction over this application and the sloppy way that the Council has allowed this developer to present their proposals, which I believe are defective and invalid and contrary to planning law. My letter to Ms Jones is set out below:

Dear Ms Jones

Proposed Hostel Uses at Nos. 53 and 55 Friars Place Lane, Acton W3. Application Ref: P/2011/1656

I attended the Council’s site visit at Nos. 53 and 55 Friars Place Lane on Saturday 3rd September 2011 along with approximately 90 local residents to protest about and object to this planning application which is unacceptable on so many levels and has many serious legal implications attached to it.

I have seen the ‘Ownership Certificate Notices’ submitted by the developers downloaded from the Web and I have serious concerns as to the validity of this application for the reasons listed below as well as a possible fraudulent signature which is a serious police matter that should be taken further.

By inspection of the registered title deeds a record of which is shown on Land Registry Title NGL236387 dated 10th August 2011, the registered owner of 53 Friars Place Lane is stated to be SADIA WAHID.

The application form does not mention her name at all as being the owner of any part of the land to which the application relates 21 days before the signing of the application.

The developers have submitted accompanying Notices, one of which shows the name of “Mr Abid Hamed” with a signature dated 13th April 2011 as being the owner of the property served with the Notice. The correct spelling of the name is in fact “Hameed” (not “Hamed”) as written on the application form.  Mr Abid Hameed is not the owner of No.53 Friars Place Lane, nor is Mr Majid Hamed whose name appears on the notice for No.55 Friars Place Lane (and is again misspelt). The signature is even more suspect as it has been written as “Muded-Hameed” and it appears to be the writing of a child who cannot spell his own name! In my opinion, this breach of the law and planning statute demands proper investigation both by the council and the police.

Additional points that need to be considered with regards to the measurements are also crucial and I have highlighted some of the points below.

Contrary to the requirement of the Council of having a minimum space for single and double bedrooms, the drawings provided on the Council’s website for the proposed plans ambiguously represents the measurements in two ways:

The two drawings of the same floor show different figures of measurement. This has not gone unnoticed even though they are shown measured in inches as opposed to the metric system that is part of the Council requirements, possibly to disguise the true available space.

The measurement of certain rooms has included the landing areas as well as the stairs even though this does not constitute part of the living-space unless this is part of the proposed plan, the details of which have not been provided. The corridors and the stairs are too narrow to accommodate a wheelchair for the disabled or a stair lift.

It is therefore the Council’s duty to have proper plans showing accurate measurements in the metric system with details of how each of the rooms indicated on the floor plans would be utilised and to make these available for public inspection. This is the only way to prove that the space is good enough for at least 19 persons (10 adults and 9 children) which we believe is not the case.  The submitted plans are very amateurish and merely show 3 bedrooms in each property (total 6 bedrooms). How do 19 persons plus night sleepover staff fit into these 3 bedrooms? 

One does not have to be an architect or a planning expert to appreciate these shortcomings. For any other developer the Council would have surely rejected such inadequate and poorly presented plans.

It is claimed that the temporary accommodation is to include vulnerable people and children which is all the more reason that the Council should know precisely what is being proposed here. It is unacceptable for approval to be even recommended let alone given on such incomplete and vague plans.

I hope the above comments will be looked into seriously and the appropriate action taken to rectify the defects in the submitted application as well as an overall replacement of the proposed plans for public scrutiny.

Will you kindly let us know what information has been withheld from the public domain as per the developers’ request to your department?

Yours sincerely

Hasan Ukra
(on behalf of Dr & Mrs H.Ukra)

Copy to:

Mr Noel Rutherford, Environment Group Director
Acton Ward Councillors (all 3 Wards)
Chair & Members of the Planning Committee
Leader of the Council
Chief Executive, LBE.
Ms Angie Bray, Ealing & Acton MP.
The Goldsmiths’ Company, EC2.
Goldsmiths’ Residents Association
The Covenant Movement, Ealing.

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                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Iain Muir... 21/09/11 13:41:00 joseph birotz
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Iain Muir... 21/09/11 13:55:00 Rosco White
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Iain Muir... 21/09/11 15:08:00 Nicola Howard
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Iain Muir... 21/09/11 15:15:00 Lesley Russell
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                                                   Re:Re:In bad faith!06/11/11 11:10:00 Victor Mishiku
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                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:In bad faith!07/11/11 12:29:00 Victor Mishiku
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                                                                  Re:Re:Mr Noel Rutherford's response11/11/11 02:47:00 Victor Mishiku
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Mr Noel Rutherford's response11/11/11 03:10:00 Victor Mishiku
                                                               Re:Mr Noel Rutherford's response11/11/11 19:54:00 Joseph Birotz
                                                                  Re:Re:Mr Noel Rutherford's response11/11/11 21:02:00 Nicola Howard
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                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Mr Noel Rutherford's response12/11/11 07:58:00 Joseph Birotz
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