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Topic: Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.
Posted by: Libby Kemp
Date/Time: 20/02/20 22:08:00

Was adequate attention given to Fire Safety at the Planning Committee?

We think 4 and 6 Portal Way were pushed through planning so quickly was because they do not meet certain requirements in the London Plan which is set to go live in March. We know Ealing has always let developers walk all over them when it comes to the provision of social housing in large developments, but safety is a completely different ball game.
We don’t think the councillors were made aware of the safety issues for the individual development or considered the overall density when all the developments were finished or had bothered to find out for themselves.
https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/planning/london-plan/new-london-plan/intend-publish-london-plan-2019

Gipsy Corner Roundabout
1 Portal Way - 1.64h, 760 units, 1,910 persons, 32 storeys
2 Portal Way – 0.37h, 380 units, 950 persons, 25 and 35 storeys plus 2 floors of commercial kitchens
4 Portal Way – 0.39h, 702 units, 1,755 persons, 55 and 45 storeys plus hotel 157 rooms
5 Portal Way - 0.5h, Algerian Embassy with large car park
6 Portal Way – 0.57h, 701 units, 1,754 persons, 54 and 58 storeys

TOTAL 6,639 Residents
plus hotel guests and staff, Embassy staff and employees in the industrial kitchens at No.2

The London Plan 2020 requires a Fire Strategy to be part of planning applications, not one of these residential developments have provided a Fire Strategy which complies with the 2020 Plan and in the wake of Grenfell no developments should be given approval until the Fire Strategy is robust.
There is one small, one-way private access road, a dead end, serving all developments on this roundabout of 3.4 hectares, for ALL coaches, taxis, private vehicles, delivery and service vehicles servicing the hotel, Embassy, Industrial Kitchens and Residential Towers.

All Emergency Service vehicles will have to share this road.

To evacuate a building on this roundabout, the A40, Victoria Road or Wales Farm Road must be crossed, some 50,884 traffic movements a day, as there is no space on the roundabout. And when you have crossed one of these roads, there is no land available in the area for a meeting point of even 100 people.  Not a single development has identified an outside space.

Should there be a bomb scare or a fire in a Tower, where will persons evacuate?
The Fire Safety Officers reports that people should stay put in their flats, post Grenfell is this an option people would obey?

If there is a bomb scare staying put is not an option

London Plan Policy D12 Fire safety
A. In the interests of fire safety and to ensure the safety of all building users, all development proposals must achieve the highest standards of fire safety and ensure that they:
1) identify suitably positioned unobstructed outside space:
a) for fire appliances to be positioned on
b) appropriate for use as an evacuation assembly point
2) are designed to incorporate appropriate features which reduce the risk to life and the risk of serious injury in the event of a fire.
Neither 4 or 6 Portal Way comply

We suggest you write and/or email the councillors who sat on the committee and ask what their reasons were for passing this application:
Ahmed, Anand, Ball, Mahmood, Manro (Chair), Martin, Raza, Rice, R Wall, L Wall, Woodroofe.  A file of all their contact details is available on Ealing Matters FB Page  - Files


Entire Thread
TopicDate PostedPosted By
“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.18/02/20 15:43:00 Rosco White
   Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.18/02/20 23:20:00 Libby Kemp
   Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.19/02/20 09:26:00 Rosco White
      Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.19/02/20 09:43:00 Libby Kemp
         Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.19/02/20 13:42:00 Rosco White
            Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 08:51:00 Tania Bapuji
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 10:03:00 Lorna Dodd
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 11:47:00 Vlod Barchuk
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 12:31:00 Rosco White
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 12:46:00 Lorna Dodd
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 12:54:00 Rosco White
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 13:22:00 Libby Kemp
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 15:11:00 Charlie Mawer
   Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 17:29:00 Dr John Stolworthy D.Sc
      Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 18:47:00 Rosco White
         Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.20/02/20 22:08:00 Libby Kemp
            Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.21/02/20 09:15:00 Dr John Stolworthy D.Sc
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.21/02/20 09:47:00 Andy Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.21/02/20 10:46:00 Libby Kemp
            Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.21/02/20 11:05:00 Charlie Mawer
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:“Stop The Towers” – Yer gotta laugh.24/02/20 19:00:00 Peter Millman

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